By JESSICA JULIAO
This is the second in our series of interviews conducted
by emerging photographers and CIIS students Jessica Juliao and Collette
McGruder, featuring artists whose works are part of En Foco/In Focus. This exhibition, which opens Jan.
22, 2013, at CIIS, includes 56 images by 48 artists, selected from the
permanent collection of En Foco, a
New York-based non-profit dedicated to cultural diversity in photography.
Jessica spoke with artist Pipo Nguyen-Duy
about his project, Assimulation, as well as immigration,
identity, and falling in and out of love with the medium of photography.
Assimulation…simulation…assimilation…This play on
words immediately engaged my curiousity, which only grew upon seeing Pipo
Nguyen-Duy’s, "The Madonna and Child," a piece exploring the intersections of gender and race. Pipo’s determination to
create a series that takes on these sensitive issues spoke volumes to me; I admire
both his photographs and his will to challenge cultural assumptions. That he
places himself in these carefully constructed images adds for me an element of
intimacy.
Jessica Juliao: You
mentioned in a brief introduction to your work that we are living in an
exciting time in photography where there are many ways of producing and
exchanging an image, from iPhones, to Photoshop, etc. How much of your work is
done in a purely traditional manner and how does preserving those practices in
your work challenge your workflow?
Pipo Nguyen-Duy: To
tell you the truth, I am pretty fluent in digital media, but for some reason I
have been holding onto film. I shoot with a 4x5 film camera currently, so my
workflow does take a lot of time. It can be inconvenient at times and I have to
make sure that my film does not get exposed to too much humidity when working
in the tropics [Vietnam]; however, I do enjoy the magic of just waiting to see
how my photographs turn out. For me, I really love that discovery, and in most
cases, it’s just complete failure! You sometimes say, oh man, I wish I shot it
digitally! After working in Vietnam for the past 5 months I came home and told myself
that next time I will shoot it digitally, but at the same time I know that—in
reality—I won’t.

JJ: In
looking over your projects I was immediately drawn into your Assimulation series for its
interpretation of iconic Renaissance and Baroque paintings. You seem to provoke
questions of gender and race as well as self and cultural identity. How was
this process for you in terms of preparing each scene and assuming the roles of
these icons yourself?
PND: I do not look at those images of myself as myself. I just look at that person as a subject. For me
to dress up as a woman there has to be a certain level of professionalism and
detachment. I think about what I can do to hold an audience and how I can
perform this. At the same time, that series created a lot of problems for me
within my community. I remember when I came back to visit California and that
series had come out, it made the front page of the Vietnamese newspaper,
talking about this person bringing shame to the whole community. Dealing with
subject matter like gender identity was not easily accepted. This series was
about race, gender, and culture and how one adjusts to a new culture,
specifically my adjustment as an Asian man to Western culture. In the "Madonna" I address the stereotype of the Asian
male, almost always pictured either as a kung fu master or feminized. So for me
to be a Madonna or a Medusa was just to negate that stereotype. Thinking about
coming here as a Vietnamese refugee and getting dismissed by the culture and
then all of a sudden to have this power to participate and to talk about the
kind of issues that I was concerned with, it was an empowering experience.
JJ: Is there a
piece that you connect more with than the others from that series and why?
PND: You know, when
I think about that series it takes me back to where I was in my life. The baby
I held in "The Madonna" was actually my
first son, and so it is very important to me. He was only three months old when
I took it. When I go back and reflect on this series, it takes me back to that
specific place and time. I am reminded of what was happening for me during that
series: starting my family, receiving my first grant, borrowing the traditional
dress from my friend Judy, etc. That history is what makes the images special
and why I connect more to one piece than another.

JJ: In speaking of your work and the level of
connection you have with your images, you mentioned that it is like a
relationship, finding that first interest in a subject before going forward.
Can you speak more about that? Is there a specific project you produced in
which the “relationship” you were forming turned into a break-up? When do you
know when to move forward and when to let go?
PND: I think it is not just about the images. For me,
photography has been one of those forced marriages. I mean, I fell in love and
of course you are never in love for too long. Eventually you hate your partner
from time to time and then you fall in love all over again. And so for me what
is really magical, and what really keeps reminding me of the beauty of what we
do are the stories that are connected to [our work]. It’s not just about the
image, but it is also about how they are made. For example, I am much more
connected to my experience of riding my motorcycle down to the countryside [in
Vietnam] and working with the school children, and I remember the specificity
of the location. And those things are more important than what the images look
like.